>From: leftover@lists.colorado.edu[SMTP:leftover@lists.colorado.edu] >Sent: Monday, February 16, 1998 6:25 PM >To: Leftover Salmon Disc. List >Subject: LEFTOVER digest 858 > > > > LEFTOVER Digest 858 > >Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Re: LHSB and Bluegrass > by Scott Holcomb > 2) ISO: Druha Trava Tapes & Info. > by Timothy Lynch > 3) Crystal Ballroom 1/22 Setlist > by Jason Bryan Schwartz > 4) Leftover in Dallas` > by Kenai24@aol.com > 5) Re: Crystal Ballroom 1/22 Setlist > by aftermid@sprynet.com (The Sunshine Kid) > 6) Re: LHSB and Bluegrass > by matthew sweeney > 7) Re: SALMON QUESTION > by Jason Bryan Schwartz > 8) correct song name > by Christopher Neil Bridges > 9) re/song titles > by Jim Abbott > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Scott Holcomb To: "msween1@gl.umbc.edu" Cc: "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Subject: Re: LHSB and Bluegrass Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:45:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Um, if you want to use that list of people, then don't forget Tony Rice > (who used to be a member of JD Crowe's New South). I mentioned who I > mentioned as a intro to the music (and if you noticed left it open to new > discovery). A lot better chance of a LoS fan digging NGR then Bill. Not > that bill ain't great. Hell, not that bill ain't amazing! But, you start > people off slow and then let them get back at their own pace. Anyone who > knows me and my way of getting into music scenes knows that I go for the > roots from the get go. My view is you have to know where you've been to > know where you are going. Matt, don't think that I'm trying to say you are incorrect, but I didn't want to see someone give an "introduction to bluegrass" without mentioning more of the greats that just Bill Monroe. I agree that the average Leftover Salmon fan would probably find it easier to get into bluegrass through the artists you mentioned than jumping straight into the hardcore, old-school bluegrass. However, this isn't always the case. I'm 25, and I got into bluegrass through LoS and the Flecktones, but I jumped right into the old stuff and love it! Personally, I have a lot of trouble calling some of the newer stuff considered bluegrass really bluegrass. Take a group like the David Grisman Quintet. I consider their styles of music jazz. I really like it a lot, but I wouldn't call it bluegrass. I just wanted to make sure old-time bluegrass got the nod as well so that others will have the same opportunity as I did to jump right into the real stuff. > And my history is bad, but my impression was the Stanley Bros. came to > light shortly after Bill doing their own brand of bluegrass. I didn't > think they were Blue Grass Boys (Bill's old band, and where bluegrass got > it's name). Actually, Carter Stanley did play with Monroe for a small time and recorded a couple cuts with him that I believe appear on the Bear Family Stanley Brothers box set, a box set I've been meaning to purchase and will as soon as I get around to getting in touch with Country Sales. I hear that Monroe actually asked Ralph and Carter to join his band and they would bill themselves as Bill Monroe and the Stanley Brothers. I had the pleasure to see Dr. Ralph Stanley play last year at the Graves Mt. Bluegrass Festival, and I can't wait to see him this year on Sunday at MerleFest. I wasn't trying to say they all directly helped Bill to make bluegrass, although many of the artists I mentioned were Blue Grass Boys. I was just trying to say that these guys were around in the beginning and help set all the rules. Hey Bryant, even though I don't read the bgrass-l any more, I did learn a thing or two from my time there. Scott ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Lynch To: LoSers Subject: ISO: Druha Trava Tapes & Info. Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:39:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Turns out that Czech bluegrass guy I asked about, Lubos Malina, plays with Druha Trava. Did anyone tape their set at the Hoodoo Bash? Have any other Druha Trava / Lubos Malina tapes? E-mail me direct if you'd be up for dubbing me some for B&P or analog trade. Thanks in advance. Tim tlynch@socrates.berkeley.edu ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jason Bryan Schwartz To: "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Cc: Clark Ritchie Subject: Crystal Ballroom 1/22 Setlist Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:13:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I know it's taken me a while, but I didn't want to post this setlist until I figured out one of the songs, which after MUCH research, I've figured out must be called "Get A Load of This" by R. Crumb & His Cheap Suit Serenaders. I knew that I had heard the song for sure on an old Dr. Demento vinyl my mother used to listened to and it took me a while to find a discography page for that album, . . . The discography for the album it's off of is at the bottom of this post, you'll notice not only "Get A Load of This", but "Boobs a Lot" by The Holy Modal Rounders as well as "If You're a Viper" on the album, . . . If anyone happens to have this album laying around, I'd love to get a copy of it since it out of print, and it might make way for some more child-hood memories ;-) Crystal Ballroom 1/22/98 Set I Green Thing Zombie Jamboree Get A Load of This Ain't Gonna Work Bend in the River River's Risin' Mama Boulet Baby Hold On Hot Burrito Breakdown Hot Corn/ Cold Corn Whisperin' Waters Iko Iko* Washington @ Valley Forge* Set II Watcha Gonna Do Breakin' Through Jokester ?? Shenandoah Breakdown Euphoria Salty Dog El Nino Jam > Shape I'm In Funky Mtn. Fogdown Muddy Water Home Boogie Old Rounder Better Going Back to Georgia We're Fucked Up Cactus Flower Jack Knife (Hey You) Get Off of My Cloud E: Reuben's Train Lick It Pasta on the Mtn. Rise Up * Washboard Mania, featuring Roger North, Vince and two other washboarders ?? I should know this one, but it's escaping me right now, . . . -------------------- Dr. Demento's Delights - Warner Bros LP BS 2855, 1975 (out-of-print) Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh - Allan Sherman The Cockroach That Ate Cincinnati - Possum Get a Load of This - R. Crumb & His Cheap Suit Serenaders Ya Wanna Buy a Bunny - Spike Jones & His City Slickers Eleanor Rigby - Doodles Weaver They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! - Napoleon XIV Boobs a Lot - The Holy Modal Rounders Ballad of Ben Gay - Ben Gay & The Silly Savages Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine - Harry "The Hipster" Gibson If You're a Viper - Jim Kweskin's Jug Band Friendly Neighborhood Narco Agent - Jef Jaisun /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Jason Bryan Schwartz Jschwart@gladstone.uoregon.edu "JASON'S PHOTO ALBUM"(last photos added 2/10/98) http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~jschwart ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Kenai24@aol.com" To: "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Subject: Leftover in Dallas` Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:17:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saw LoS in Dallas at Trees Saturday night. What a great show. Everytime I see them I am more impressed. I should have a tape soon, I will let you know. pasta, Carrie ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "aftermid@sprynet.com" To: "jschwart@gladstone.uoregon.edu" , "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Cc: Clark Ritchie Subject: Re: Crystal Ballroom 1/22 Setlist Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:29:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Jason Bryan Schwartz wrote: > Well, I know it's taken me a while, but I didn't want to post this >setlist until I figured out one of the songs, which after MUCH research, >I've figured out must be called "Get A Load of This" by R. Crumb & His >Cheap Suit Serenaders. I knew that I had heard the song for sure on an old >Dr. Demento vinyl my mother used to listened to and it took me a while to >find a discography page for that album, . . . The discography for the >album it's off of is at the bottom of this post, you'll notice not only >"Get A Load of This", but "Boobs a Lot" by The Holy Modal Rounders as well >as "If You're a Viper" on the album, . . . If anyone happens to have this >album laying around, I'd love to get a copy of it since it out of print, >and it might make way for some more child-hood memories ;-) I don't have the Holy LP but I do have a 1965 Fugs LP with that song on it. It was written by Steve Weber who was in both groups. So, which group released the ditty first? I beleive the 1st HMR was also released in '65. But, not having any of their LP's I have no idead if Boob's was on the 1st one. Peace, Bob ******************************************************* If my email bounces, please try this here addy: Darkstr723@aol.com Check out my Dead tape list at: http://members.aol.com/DarkStr723/index.html and my not-so-Dead list at: http://members.aol.com/DarkStr723/index1.html "Say you'll come back when you can, Whenever your airplane happens to land. Maybe I'll be back here, too. It all depends on what's with you." ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: matthew sweeney To: "lgtsotr@earthlink.net" Cc: "msween1@gl.umbc.edu" , "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Subject: Re: LHSB and Bluegrass Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:47:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Matt, don't think that I'm trying to say you are incorrect, but I didn't want > to see someone give an "introduction to bluegrass" without mentioning more of > the greats that just Bill Monroe. I agree that the average Leftover Salmon > fan would probably find it easier to get into bluegrass through the artists > you mentioned than jumping straight into the hardcore, old-school bluegrass. > However, this isn't always the case. I'm 25, and I got into bluegrass > through LoS and the Flecktones, but I jumped right into the old stuff and As did I (well somewhat, I found Irish folk music shortly after bluegrass, and well, I like Irish folk music more). Just, speaking from experience I didn't want to tell the guy "oh go and buy this and this and this" and then have him not like it cause he's not ready for it yet. And then he never gets into the stuff later on when he is ready for it. > love it! Personally, I have a lot of trouble calling some of the newer stuff > considered bluegrass really bluegrass. Take a group like the David Grisman > Quintet. I consider their styles of music jazz. I really like it a lot, but > I wouldn't call it bluegrass. > Ok, I see the missunderstanding here. I used Grisman's name to point to Dave Grisman's Rounder Album and to stuff like Shady Grove. Both of these are amazing albums and while Shady Grove is old timey, DGRA is deffinetly bluegrass. Fun little album to, I love the intro and outro. > I just wanted to make sure old-time bluegrass got the nod as well so that > others will have the same opportunity as I did to jump right into the real > stuff. > I got nothing against the old stuff. As I listen to more and more I'm finding a love the more traditional sounding music more than anything else, be it bluegrass or old timey, or folk music, or country western, or blues or what ever. I'm waiting for an order from Rounder that includes some Field recordings in the Lomax series. And I got some high hopes for that CD. So, deffinetly, everyone needs to check out thier origins. As I said before, you need to know where you've been to know where you're going. > see Dr. Ralph Stanley play last year at the Graves Mt. Bluegrass Festival, > and I can't wait to see him this year on Sunday at MerleFest. > Neither can I. And we deffinetly need to hook up sometime over that weekend and chat about things. > I wasn't trying to say they all directly helped Bill to make bluegrass, > although many of the artists I mentioned were Blue Grass Boys. I was just > trying to say that these guys were around in the beginning and help set all > the rules. > Ok, I thought there was a chance that I had just misunderstood you. > Hey Bryant, even though I don't read the bgrass-l any more, I did learn a > thing or two from my time there. > That is deffinetly a fun and kind list. Wish I had the time to keep up with it. matt ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3D75.5DD32AB0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jason Bryan Schwartz To: jaiboyz Cc: "leftover@lists.colorado.edu" Subject: Re: SALMON QUESTION Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:49:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe he was just ready to get off the road, . . . his last show was on the main stage at High Sierra 7/6/97 and Jeff Sipes (new LoS drummer) joined on 7/9/97 at the River Ranch in Tahoe City, CA,